Honor and The Golden Rule

With the farm-type summer workload around here to explain the dearth of posts it’s not TOO surprising for me to be linking to J. D. once again.

This time to disagree a bit…

His post Honor is in reference, directly, to Glenn Beck’s event yesterday in DC.

As a disclaimer: I don’t watch or listen to Beck so what I know about him and his position(s) comes from the periphery. Still, I’m not so distant as to ignore an event of the scale we saw yesterday.

Thing is… I don’t see what honor and religion have to do with each other? My personal philosophy doesn’t rise to the level of a ‘religion’. I’m a simple ‘Golden Rule’ type guy.

J. D. noted:

What exactly is honor? Years ago, I wrote the following:
Honor is a code we live by. It encompasses all our values and all that we do. When honor is a value, it means we will do what we say and live by the values we express as ours. It means we live by a code of dignity, integrity and pride. It also means that our personal integrity is maintained without any legal or other obligation. A code of honor is an uncompromising commitment to a way of life. – The Three Meter Zone

I agree 100%, but disagree with the leap he and Beck seem to make: Our “American” code can be wrapped in one predominant phrase. In God we trust.

If we need an external code to define honor do we then also need an external reference to define personal integrity? I think not.

The simple beauty of The Golden Rule is that it is ultimately selfish and internal. It’s not predicated on some external code.

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5 Responses to Honor and The Golden Rule

  1. BooRadley says:

    Thing is, although you were raised (by fam) and trained (by mil) in a way that emphasizes honor and it may seem like a stand alone concept, and in some ways it is… I do think that the way we define honor and integrity are deeply inherent in the biblical (judeo-christian) usage. That said, you can still have honor and integrity without the religion (as I’m sure you do) so much of what we believe is “right” comes straight from it. IMHO 🙂 (I did not see the beck thing, either)

  2. Ponsdorf says:

    At the risk of sounding argumentative (I have so many comments I can risk annoying you?) I THINK I suggested that honor is simply an outgrowth of an internal process based on The Golden Rule.

    You may well be right, but I think the ‘do unto others as you would have them do unto you’ thing – fully realized must include honor as part an parcel?

  3. Bob-O says:

    I, like you, am not religious. That position is not to be confused with being an atheist, I’m not one of them either. I did, however watch the Restoring Honor rally on C-span and Facebook. I found it to be very inspirational.

    I simply look past the religious component. I don’t personally need an “external code” as you put it to maintain honor and integrity, but I accept the fact that many, if not most people, do. I also accept the fact that religion is the source of the Golden Rule, primary vehicle for communicating and maintaining it for those who need it. That’s a good thing.

  4. 'Sweetie' says:

    Perhaps this is a bit off the topic of Honor and Religion, but…

    As for myself, I get tired of always hearing God, linked to so much Conservative thought.

    Guess what? A person can be of a Conservative mind-set, without needing a God or a Bible or any such, to do so. I just use my mind.

    But I do feel left out, quite a bit of the time. Sort of like, I “don’t pass the test,” or something…

  5. 'Sweetie' says:

    Nor did I see the Beck thing….

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